Skyrim talk:Tharstan

Married?

The page for Fanari Strong-Voice claims that she and Tharstan are married, but neither of them seems to mention this in dialogue. Is this true? 98.204.42.6 16:40, 13 May 2013 (GMT)

I don't see that on the Fanari page at all... Could you copy and paste the exact line here? Jeancey (talk) 16:55, 13 May 2013 (GMT)

I believe this is based on the husband/wife relationship in the game data, as seen in cslist: http://cs.uesp.net/index.php?game=sr&formid=0xDB018fc8. There also seems to be some conversations between both of them in the Greathall that suggests they are probably not actually married, rather Tharstan just has a soft spot for Fanari:

Fanari: I have a favor to ask of you, Tharstan.

Tharstan: Hm? What do you need?

Fanari: When you visit the ruins again, will you bring back some blue mountain flowers?

Tharstan: My dear chieftain, I will bring you back a whole bouquet if you wish.

Fanari: I don't need so many, but thank you, Tharstan. You are as sweet as honey from the comb.

Here is another unrelated convo:

Tharstan: Is it just me, or is it colder than usual today? By the Nine, I feel as if my bones have turned to ice.

Fanari: And you want to put more logs on the fire?

Tharstan: Just a few.

Fanari: Then take an axe and find a dead tree to cut. We keep only what we need in the village, you know that.

Tharstan: I'm not setting foot out that door unless it's absolutely necessary. If I do that, I'll be even colder than I am now!

--Jimeee (talk) 17:19, 13 May 2013 (GMT)

Yes, but the IP said that the page here claims they are married, and I don't see that.... Or were you saying that the page they were referring to was the CSList? Jeancey (talk) 17:25, 13 May 2013 (GMT)

My mistake, it isn't on her page, it's on the page for the quest Lost Legacy: "Using what he learned of Skaal culture, Tharstan wrote Children of the All-Maker, and the next book is nearly finished. He also married the Skaal leader Fanari Strong-Voice and now lives in the largest building in town, the Greathall. " But I can't find any evidence for this in the game, nor elsewhere on this wiki. 98.204.42.6 21:34, 13 May 2013 (GMT)

It is taken from the game data, where they are set as married, though it could just be set that way so that they will sleep in the same bed. Jeancey (talk) 21:39, 13 May 2013 (GMT)

Okay, thanks, that makes sense. It's not unheard of for a Skaal to marry an outsider, but since he's only been there a year it would have been rather a whirlwind courtship, and also no one ever talks about it, which makes the situation rather weird. But it would also be weird for an outsider to sleep in bed with the chief without being married to her... I'm not sure why they couldn't have just thrown another bed in there for him. Anyway, I'll raise the issue on the quest page. 98.204.42.6 00:32, 14 May 2013 (GMT)

Propagandist

As far as I can tell the book he wrote is pure propaganda. He outright admits to manipulating the contents to suit his whims ("I don't think this will go in my book" after an important character is killed by a certain Daedra) and he tells easily refutable lies, sometimes to your face. For example, he states the Skaal don't kill for sport, yet there are literally dozens of mounted trophy heads around the village - there's one in the main hall staring down at him while he writes his sentimental rubbish! I don't know for sure the reason he tells these lies. One explanation might be that he has simply gone native and is putting out a positive image of the Skaal at the request of Fanari (whom he seems enamoured to). Another might be for political purposes: he could be present on Solstheim for purposes of manufacturing a reason for Skyrim to reconquer the island from the Dunmer due to "ancient ancestral links", or even be there to justify a rejection of the Eight/Nine Divines after "rediscovering the true faith". His patron isn't readily apparent, but it could be one of the two primary claimants to the High Kingdom of Skyrim, or one of the other Hold lords looking to expand their demesne. Enjoy (talk) 21:26, 28 September 2013 (GMT)

While your thoughts on this are certainly interesting, they aren't appropriate for the wiki as we don't deal in speculation. Please feel free to talk about this on the forums where you might find a more receptive audience. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 21:41, 28 September 2013 (GMT)

Okay! Enjoy (talk) 19:32, 29 September 2013 (GMT)